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| It's probably the filth from the air that caused people to get sick. Vincent is immune since he is more than a human |
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| Pino is hilarious. Anyway, can't believe Vincent survived that fall. I wonder what will happen next. |
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| That beginning gave me a real headache, probably that same headache Vincent was having =_= not that it was bad or anything, but I wish I didn't have to suffer through a headache to watch that...all that shaky camera effects and the blurry focus x_x great directing though ^^ Hmm nothing much happened this episode. More questions arise. Re-l seems to be understanding with Daedalus not telling her things about the proxy, which is nice. They seem to have a good relationship with each other. |
| Iggy got taken away... ;_; BTW, did anyone else notice that Vincent's profile page that Re-l had, lists him as having blue eyes? Interesting... |
| It's getting better, I understand what's happening now. The atmosphere reminds me of playing Tony Hawk Underground on the xbox in a friends garage. (Random, right?} |
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| This keeps getting better and better. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| Glad they have Pino . . . I rather like comedic relief in series like this . . . But anyways I'm kind of curious if Re-l is going to leave the dome too, it almost seemed like she intended to follow him. |
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| fool of a vincent |
"Urushibara Ruka. The mannerisms and voice of a woman... No... More feminine than any woman. But he's a guy. Taller than Mayuri, but so very thin... But he's a guy. Looks great in a miko outfit... But he's a guy. It's already twilight And yet, it's so hot. The cicadas are crying. But... He's a guy." |
| still not enough emotion/comic relief, way too serious for me. don't even care about the characters. DROPPED |
| I thought immigrant meant people from outside the dome. Seeing how Vincent was surprised to see the outside world, I guess that's not the case. What's an immigrant anyway O_o |
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness." "May those who defy their fate be granted glory." |
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| Decent episode. It did a good job in establishing the outside world along with the characters that live there. |
| Armageddon was yesterday, today we have a problem. |
| Joe-san. Joe? Joe... Joe... Joe! Highlight of the episode for me. |
| That smirkface of vincent after he killed the autoreiv. I'm eager to find out what his second personality is. And god, I love the atmosphere and the world design. |
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| I'm yet to find an anime without comic-relief but everything in this show fits perfectly, it's astounding. |
| So that Proxy was the one that was chasing Vincent? |
| I don't get what shit is going on in the first half. Also that smirk face hahaha the proxy probably got killed by Vincent But I don't get what's an immigrant means anyway. I might get a headache from all these questions. |
| no really new questions but no answers asweel. A somewhat uneventful episode. Curious though how this whole situation will evolve since now it seems that vincent is chased |
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| Wow, Hoody was the first character so far to show any personality whatsoever. If I wasn't such a big cyberpunk buff, I would have dropped this already. The series still remains "okay" so far. |
| Really loving this series a lot! Pino is awesome! For anyone who is confused as to what is going on, check out the Ergo Proxy wiki and read the summary for the episode, it explains a lot about what is happening and it makes it even more enjoyable to watch when you have an idea of what is going on. Also I love how the credit song is Radiohead's 'Paranoid Agent', I love that song! |
| The afternoon has gently passed me by The evening spreads its sail against the sky Waiting for tomorrow Just another day God bid yesterday goodbye... |
| Law lived in a room with very little, though he seemed to value the image of the "model citizen" as advertised by the city. Off the top of my head, the idea of commodity defining the individual was referenced in Karl Marx's writings, but I'm unsure of how much farther back it goes. For the intents of understanding Ergo Proxy though, it's not just something that satisfies human needs, but it also defines the person. In other words, the artifacts of human possessions, even if they're mass-produced items of little economic value, speaks volumes about the individual. In the case of Vincent Law, his common, every day items depict someone trying to live that common, every day life. In other words, he just wants to be normal. ...Goodness gracious, if that's correct, then this is one hell of a roundabout way to tell such a story. That aside, the imagery present during his hallucination at the episode's beginning was sure something. And who the hell quotes philosophy to a person waking up from being knocked unconscious? I don't completely understand Pino's presence in the anime yet, nor the reason why she's dressed as a...fox I think. I'm reminded of Serial Experiments Lain, where Lain's bear costume was supposedly used to represent Lain attempting to shield herself from the unpleasantness and uncertainties of her life. It's also an interesting choice of motifs since both cases represent the few references to anything related to nature in their technologically-focused stories. Again, I don't know if this is intentional or not, but it's how I'm seeing it. Otherwise, I guess it was done for juxtaposition against the hardcore technological, Dystopic, and at times demonic nature of the series, almost akin to Casshern Sins? Is it to foreshadow some sort of trickery? Was it done for cuteness reasons? Oh, and I don't know why, but I just noticed the hymn-like OST going on in the background. Again, no idea what it means. Just thought it was interesting to point out, especially since it's played during the really dramatic scenes. For example, it was played in this episode over the PROXY's corpse, making it feel like you were looking at something marvelous and ethereal, as opposed to something horrifying or dangerous. Or it could have been used to make an otherwise uneventful scene feel more significant than it really was. I dunno. |
| Took Vincent long enough. Pino is cute and seems educated, not weird her being an Autoreiv and all. "You do believe me ... dont you ... Re-L ?" - Not shady at all ... Daedalus. Would seem Vincent isnt as innocent as he looks, especially with that smirk after the surveillance bot got blasted down. |
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| Ｈｏｏｄｙ ｑｕｏｔｅｓ Ｊｏë Ｂｏｕｓｑｕｅｔ ｔｏ ａｎ ｕｎｃｏｎｃｉｏｕｓ Ｖｉｎｃｅｎｔ So Re-l was fired? I'm kind of glad, this means she can dive into the investigation with more freedom. I also feel like the characters don't really have chemistry (the ones in the city anyway), but I think this might be intentional. The swamp dwellers seem alright so far. Shocked said: I don't completely understand Pino's presence in the anime yet, nor the reason why she's dressed as a...fox I think. I'm reminded of Serial Experiments Lain, where Lain's bear costume was supposedly used to represent Lain attempting to shield herself from the unpleasantness and uncertainties of her life. It's also an interesting choice of motifs since both cases represent the few references to anything related to nature in their technologically-focused stories. Again, I don't know if this is intentional or not, but it's how I'm seeing it. Otherwise, I guess it was done for juxtaposition against the hardcore technological, Dystopic, and at times demonic nature of the series, almost akin to Casshern Sins? Is it to foreshadow some sort of trickery? Was it done for cuteness reasons? Your post was an interesting read as usual. In addition to the options you noted, I think Pino could be a kitsune archetype, too. |
| The series is better when it tries to tell its story and not appear to be more than I think it'll achieve. There are still a few moments when its awkward writing tends to make one laugh when it's not meant to, but those are fewer when it doesn't take itself to be so serious and "Deep". I hope it's able to develop a real depth in a less overt manner, given how people have seemed to enjoy this show, but I still have my doubts. At least its mystery is fun to speculate on and the character designs do make a likeable impression. We'll see. |
| I really hope nothing bad happens to Pino... |
"At some point, I stopped hoping." |
| Vincent destroying the drone is gonna bite them in the ass but you can't really blame him since he was trying to protect Pino. |
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| One of the first more psychological episodes with that chaotic dream sequence. "Joe" LOL *cough* Then Pino copies, cough and all! So funny. |
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Lol, I can't believe Lil dislikes symmetry. Oh damn! Vincent was the one that took down that Autoreiv in the first episode!  God, she's so adorable! So that's the outside world huh? Looks super polluted and barren. And it looks like the culture of the outside dwellers are that of scavengers. It's almost like the Matrix in a way.  Damn, Quinn has that ass. And it resembles Samus' Zero Suit. That's fucking hot:  |
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| Nice episode, and the mystery continues. Let's see why vincent is important and the specs of disease and amirta |
 Without change,we end up becoming the very person we hate. I was dead until the moment I met you. I was a powerless corpse pretending to be alive. Living without power, without the ability to change my course, was bound to lead me to a slow death. |
| mfs were tryna shoot my robot loli |
| Floyd Mayweather English Tutor |
| After reading and finishing Blame! When Vincent when outside the dome and saw there is life outside of it (even full of useful junk). This really REALLY reminded me of Blame! I didn't read Blame! when I first watched this, but rewatching now. WOW! This is my favorite scene in the episode :)  So the other Proxy was already dead and killed at the original escape route. I wonder if Pino knew about it that's why she redirected Vincent from that location. When I saw Quinn emerging with a scuba diving outfit and braids. I instantly thought about Lara Croft!!! Nice sexy body with braids. The Real Lara Croft and not the Nu Trilogy one. Same with Sei from Gantz!  |
| Anoter confusing dream at the end, but maybe Vincent's infection is caused by the proxy itself and why he's related to all of that. At least he survived and now he's directly in a community outside the dome which is just living thanks to what's expulsed directly from the drone, though they're really sending drones to check up of all it and surprisingly it aimed Pino even though AutoReiv are normally not aimed, but I'm sure it's because Pino is infected that it got detected. |
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| I still have no clue how he survived that fall |
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| The outside world looks desolate; a neverending archipelago of rock, metal and fog. |
  ｲ乇刀乇乃尺ﾑ乇 ╔⏤═⏤╝   ╚⏤═⏤╗☽ Shaded Horizon ☾ |
| So people are able to survive outside of the dome Glad to see Vincent alive and well though |
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| Such a bizarre and refreshing show, especially watching from 2025. This anime is 19 years old! Still vaguely confused, but it seems to be building towards something, slowly but surely. It doesn't hurt that it just oozes atmosphere, through the art, direction, pace and music. It's easy to just soak in and enjoy the vibes. |
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